i know the white house is looking at those kinds of things, labor law. larry cohen was talking about some of this earlier, the ed show. i am hopeful the white house sees a path to move the country forward. >> do you think immigration and gun reform, which the president has put forward as it first. for the first term that they can move in the senate? >> i think immigration can move in the senate. a number of things we can get in the senate because we have a way of getting over the 60 votes or speeding up the process. the house still doesn't move on it, so perhaps immigration gets through this. if it doesn't get through the house, the president will use executive powers that he has. it isn't ever as good invoking the executive powers, executive orders and other things. it will be pretty hard. there will be a lot of public pressure, as the president pushes us. i think they will use the next four years, use the bully pulpit. the republicans are going to say he is out campaigning. i think he is pushing his agenda. he needs to go over the heads of republicans